There is no word yet on where fans outside of the USA and Canada will be able to see Strange New Worlds. Yeah, I used to look on TOS as a potential future of our own universe but of course the show’s depiction of an Apollo Saturn V being used to launch an orbital nuclear platform in 1968 or the future launch of the Botany Bay in 1996 more or less ended that fantasy. is a function of timing, because even TNT would like to get the team back together again. There certainly won’t be a console TV, but Strange New Worlds is taking inspiration from the mid-century modern style of The Original Series. He heard Uhura's laughter and over the top Spock's voice. "ETA 3 seconds." "Shields," I ordered. Not sure how I feel about LA’AAAAAAN but I’m open to anything at this point…until I’m not. Please Note: Features some quotes from Star Trek XI. Kirk, McCoy, Scott, and Uhura get thrust into an alternate reality where the Federation is an evil empire and their shipmates and friends are now malicious, dangerous adversaries. It’s pretty clear that stance softened by the end of the run, and continued through the movies. Aziz. To audiences, all that matters is the finished work. I don’t know of Roddenberry ever disavowing it or of any discussion about editing it out. Had he STARTED to smile then catch himself, then it plays. Found insideThis book series will delve into the lives and relationships of Kirk and the other recruits at the Academy, their training, their missions, and their romances. Post crisis changed that. And ignoring the animated/cartoon shows, here’s how I’d break things down for any future re-watch –, My FIRST imagined ‘universe’ setting – The storyline and characters of ‘The Cage’ pilot episode occurs in this particular ‘universe’. And in case you missed it, ViacomCBS held a live event that was streamed online and via Paramount+ showcasing and celebrating all things Star Trek! It could be simply Spock struggling with emotions as we’ve seen many times before. And the ones we can-- it ' ll take some doing to maintain. As for the “pitchfork,” we got SNW in the first place because the fandom rose up in a body and begged for it. In SNW he’s not going to smile in every episode. "We're going to Vethan," Kirk said stubbornly, avoiding Spock's enquiring glance. At the end of the episode, Kirk teases Spock about “this regrettable tendency you’ve been showing lately towards flagrant emotionalism.” Notice that word “LATELY.” Kirk is talking about how much emotion it must have taken for Spock to kidnap Pike and plan this whole scheme, NOT about what they saw in the old footage. The Powers That Be, the producers etc, may dictate what is canon and what is not, but it is not up to them. The Spock we saw on Discovery was already a supposed extension of him in The Cage, so of course they were going to continue it. Found insideUhura nodded. “It makes sense,” Kirk said. “But if he did, I'm sure he had a good reason. And of us all he was the one best equipped to handle ... Kirk was about to say something when McCoy continued, “Nothing's going to humanize Spock. There's also the case of the reboot series' biggest couple: Spock and Uhura. Some of the days on the bridge were our longest days. Spock and Uhura make music together in the recreation room. Goodness, I certainly never stated — and never intended to imply — that I know Star Trek better than everybody else. Like I said before, can’t wait to see the new (old) voyages of the Starship Enterprise, this time under the command of Christopher Pike. In context, it may not be that bad. But as the show goes on, then they will make him closer to Spock of the TV show. Says who? (Spock turns the lift back on) SPOCK: I need everyone to continue performing admirably. It’s an “inside baseball” decision. Gabe and JJ entered next and took up positions covering the flanks of the main group. As you said, it is just a TV show and they can do or change what they want, but I do hope they try to stick with cannon as much as possible. The captain was different because he was Kirk’s predecessor who had been promoted. And while that is certainly a milestone, Sulu's aren't the only romantic interests in the film in which the audience is invested. Exactly. She understands that it’s bigger. I can totally buy an alien spore acting like marijuana or something like that and releasing Spock’s control over his emotions. one baby then twin 14 year olds. I think it would be fun to have Kirk have to deal with a female captain that's almost a mirror reflection of himself. Star Trek: Prodigy Opening Credits Released, Star Trek Kelvin universe movies forum at The Trek BBS. I used to get really (not really) perturbed when people insisted that Discovery was canon (visual reboot). I want to speak directly to the Governor. Nimoy said he smiled because he was asked to by the Director. But those scenes of Spock are also in The Menagerie. And I thought, ‘Okay, well, this is a great place to start because I can only imagine where we’re going to end up.’, “And we literally end up in the opposite direction. Tell me. Found insidePower slipped in one big drain down to twelve percent before we could grab it back, but I've got the twelve in ... into a combined snarl and furrow, one eye narrowing as the chief engineer anticipated going after somebody who would do ... This is why I am not bothered at ALL by how Raffi speaks to him, and calls him “JL”. I guess they don’t exist in this universe. Uh-oh, the captain thought. Also, Pike cooks meals for his crew? Picard’s cold. I also half agree with you on the CGI remastered TOS episodes. You just volunteered to captain a team. I expect we will also get some interesting back stories on legacy characters like Spock, Uhura, Chapel, First Officer Chin-Riley and of course Pike. You touch things, they react. I remember, along with you and others, saying it was totally not necessary to base a character smiling from a 50 year old pilot. So we were constantly trying to imagine we were responding to promises we thought were made in the original show. “She’s tired,” said Saldana. The ship had had some upgrades. In the films he seems more like a real friend. "Captain on the bridge," Sulu announced. Yep. But this only applies to the footage that was actually part of “The menagerie”. McCoy and Sarek exchanged greetings and the doctor expressed his condolences to the ambassador. But it is the Eagle, Captain. Think about all the fan fiction (the fan fiction that essentially saved Star Trek). The Smallville universe still exists, separate from the merged Supergirl/Arrowverse. "You mustn't tell anyone". Now the four have to find a way to get back to their own reality without being discovered and killed. They’ve already gone back to his early self. For the sake of smoothing over inconsistencies and improving my own enjoyment of the various ‘spin-offs’ of the original STAR TREK show and it’s characters, I prefer to imagine them as being similar but very ‘alternate versions’ to the original characters and settings portrayed in the TOS tv show and movies – which show a smattering of ‘parallel worlds/alternate universe’ characters and settings different to the ‘TOS universe’ ones – so yes, storylines from an imaginary ‘multi-verse’ of possibilities if you will, where any mentioned ‘stardates’ are meaningless. Just different leadership styles that’s all. 'Old men,' he winced. Some fans spend WAY too much time on “canon.” That kind of discussion entirely misses the forest for the trees. I’m just going to ask you, exactly out of the 800 episodes and movies, what is NOT part of your ‘alternative universe’ setting? UHURA! Please! I find this discussion a bit odd. We'll assume this is okay if you continue to use this website. You can see a clip below that shows the awkward tension between them. I hope this is a slightly different universe than Discovery’s, just as Superman and Lois’ universe is a slightly different universe than Supergirl’s. Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Cory and Lt. Thompson entered the cell first. It broke me. By: Matt Wright Rebecca Romijn as Una Chin-Riley on the updated USS Enterprise bridge set. We can and should do better than cardboard sets designed for new color TV sets, we shouldn’t dry to squeeze a story out of one moment that occurred because they had no idea what they were really doing with the character. >;>]. "Truly you are like a petulant child," he responded. I think they have an amazing friendship, very respectful of each other, but maybe she’s beginning to understand that with all that has happened before, that at some point it’s going to have to go in this direction, and maybe she just wants to get herself out of his way. Please Note: Features some quotes from Star Trek XI. The Strange New Worlds segment of the Star Trek Day celebration included stars Anson Mount, Ethan Peck, and Rebecca Romijn, and executive producers Akiva Goldsman and Henry Alsonso Myers. (and if I’m in the mood for a little more nostalgic ‘Star Trek’ after that, I guess I’d consider the original animated TOS show to be set in yet another ‘alternate universe’ too….). So i will continue to look on the ‘Prime universe’ Spock as only having ‘Sybok’ as his sibling, while this particular ‘alternate uiniverse Spock’ has a sister. Star Trek Beyond‘s Zoë Saldana explained how the Enterprise crew felt at the beginning of the movie and where they ultimately ended up, and also what was happening in the Spock-Uhura relationship. Vulcans have emotion, they just suppress them. In that, there’s no longer this animosity or this resentment to sort of prove who you are. It wouldn’t be the first time. Demons Long before the Federation, powerful force invaded our galaxy and almost destroyed it... a force that began with possession and madness, and ended in murder! True. What kind of procreative organs do Vulcans have? Warp speed is the first level of speed past light speed and may become faster based on a "warp" or propulsive level. But it aired. There were a few hints about the “feelings of love and attraction” mentioned by Peck. I counted down in my head and at the end a massive . Found insideIt'll take a half hour to get them put back together again, much less up and running.” Kirk smiled at Scott's attempt at clairvoyance. “Thanks for the heads-up, Scotty, but I don't need the warp drive just yet. What I do need is for ... At the beginning of Star Trek Beyond, Uhura, like the other crewmembers, was a bit unhappy. OPENING CREDITS Egypt, 1914 (A boy riding on a camel. Following the events of Star Trek: The Motion Picture the captain and crew of the USS Enterprise found themselves haunted by their extraordinary encounter with the vast artificial intelligence of V'Ger, and by the sacrifice and ascension of ... And continuing on that path instead of making a needed course correction is a tremendous mistake. Finally Spock got a haircut again instead of that stupid wig like in DSC and the Abrams-movies (even Nimoy wore a wig in ST:11 and ST:12). Found insideUhura caught me in a moment of weakness and dragged me along. There's still time for me to beg off.” Spock arched an eyebrow. “And do what?” “It isn't really necessary to bring McCoy along,” Uhura did not ask Spock so much as tell him. I look on ALL of it as showing ‘imaginary’ future Earth’s (and somewhat similar-looking past events and characters to ours at times) which just happen in ‘alternate universes’ to ours. I also need you to arrange for an escort. That boat has sailed awhile ago. So it sounds to me as if Leila had an unrequited crush on Spock, not a relationship with him. We speculated that this was soon after his falling-out with Sarek, when he rejected his dad’s Vulcan plans for him, and he was playing with embracing human perspectives. Benedict Cumberbatch was a great addition to the movie cast as well. :). It’s strange how insistent so many fans are that we should see technology and political change properly projected forward/backwards by 20-30 years (or 900 years) for the various iterations of Trek… but follow the arc of Picard’s personal growth from joining his friends at the poker table? You forget you are on a soundstage in Toronto. Together they set the trap that would destroy the maiden. They chose to leave Spock’s smile in the footage they reused to tell their new story, and when they did that it became part of Spock’s past. That said, I believe that there is a lot more emotional latitude to the Spock character than what some believe. Spock and I rushed out of the lift onto the bridge. There is no canon, but what we make. You and Uhura get three more and Hikaru and I will do the same." "Jim," McCoy replied, exasperated. After seeing that Spock decides to get back with Uhura. When Ethan talked about how it is “wonderful” the show is introducing more legacy characters, Romijn piped in, cryptically adding, “Legacy characters with legacy relationships.” Later in the panel, Goldsman talked about this in the context of one of his favorite tie-ins to TOS on Strange New Worlds: There were a couple of things to play with as we were re-making it up. Lieutenant Sulu, lay me a course away from Colony Five—not irrevocably,but enough to buy me some time. Spock and I rushed out of the lift onto the bridge. The zine ran for twenty-three regular issues and two special editions. Also wondering how they’ll deal with the Roger Korby business around the same time with Chapel. Hendorff stared at the spot they'd disappeared into the forest like a kicked puppy. Boy 1: Come, come! That changed a few episodes later when he suddenly became the bumbling, but more lovable Rom we all know today. Basing Spock on the first-draft version is just ridiculous. Being the people in charge, it’s their call to make. Finally, the back group entered, staying safely behind everyone else. It’s possible Boyce is still the Chief Medical Officer. The massive power struck the Enterprise-B dead-on. Found insideYet he sat in his chair, and turning to one side, he could see Scotty leaning back in his station's chair, grumpily eyeing the ... And Uhura would be— She wasn't, though. ... “All right, Mr. Spock, mind the store till I get back. As long as the show is good. It will also be fun to see cadet Uhura on the prime Enterprise and how she compares with her Kelvin universe counterpart. “Making SNW Spock into an emotional person will drastically change the meaning of the character and will undo some of what Spock has meant for the past 55 years.”, They already did that in Discovery season 2 though. He was basically the cook for the staff. It’s playing after Discovery season four, and it takes place after season two. The story is good, works within the time limit, and we get to see Uhura get shit done! Takes charge of the ship, beams down and stuns anyone who gives her lip. >;>). Jaylah and Uhura get to be their own characters. And a blender and a coffee maker, too!! It is truly amazing how big his transformation was to the point most people don’t seem to remember. Kirk swayed a little. Found inside“That is okay,” replied Spock. “I admire Humans who get right to the point. Most do not.” “Well, I do,” said Uhura. “Yes,” agreed Spock. “My father was Vulcan's ambassador to Earth for many years. That is how he met my mother. It was cool to see Uhura get something to do in the movie, but it would be nice to see a woman with more of a commanding role in one of these films. BEAM HER UP: Zoe Saldana, above and below with John Cho, has starring roles in two science fiction franchises, as Lieutenant Uhura in 'Star Trek' and Neytiri in 'Avatar.'. The pair are explicitly broken up in the movie, and they do not get back together. Lieutenant Uhura . With one bite, the flower of honey. "Come, let us seek out my sehlat." He stood up and, grabbing Kirk under the elbow, helped him to his feet. "Get us back in between --" It was too late. Better see If there's some way of fixing it so no one else gets hurt. :-) So I know the current makers of Star Trek monitor at least some of the fan sites. It might bring people to God, who before have avoided the subject or not known much about scripture. Ow! You don’t like this direction, fine. Ambassador Spock (Leonard Nimoy) dies. Just something that appeared in the old show we are ignoring now. So keep reading TrekMovie for our full Star Trek Day coverage. And Spock used to smile, but he doesn’t any more. That was the original Spock character but said he was changed later in the first season. I will give you the argument that Spock’s loyalty to Pike seemed a bit odd. Boy 2: Please! Not much could be done either way at this point. Kirk looked at Spock and Uhura. They made us human and homesick and sad, and how being overly worked and away from home, and all the things that keep you grounded, can put a strain not just on the intimate relationships that you may have, but also the professional ones. And Sisko also cooked for his crew quite a bit. “The fact that we’ll be viewing in horror and dismay”. It comes to life in a way you don’t even quite realize until you are standing right in front of it. Some dramatic license taken with the dialogue and/or plot of both Star Trek XI and "It's a Wonderful life". I think it’s much more selfless than what anybody thinks. While a few sets for the USS Enterprise were created for season two of Star Trek: Discovery, we can see in the character reveal video released last week that those have been updated, and new sets have been created for Strange New Worlds. The other characters get more to do this time as well. It’s doubling down on that mistake. Embrace the headcanon. The two security men made up a distant third and fourth. A Talosian singing plant briefly amuses Mr. Spock in “The Cage”. Seeing as you’ve asked, I’m happy to clarify it more fully for you. "Uhura, get me Star Fleet Command, Admiral Langford, immediately! THAT'S AN ORDER!' Jim yelled after them in disbelief. Armor plating, disruptor canons. Found inside – Page 1All-new Star Trek series following the adventures of Captain Kirk and the iconic crew! Waching daily Jul 30 2017. Found inside – Page 175And Uhura would be — She wasn't, though. ... "I did not catch the entire conversation, but there was some communications problem to which she felt Mr. Freeman from Life Sciences ... "All right, Mr. Spock, mind the store till I get back. It’s been said before and warrants being said it again. The first dozen or so episodes of first season he was smiling, so this is not really a big difference with the character. Everything works. I did a complete rewatch of TOS this year and even I forgot just how much the guy smiled in the first season. And just to add a couple of things which I missed out in my previous post –. His debate with Spock about the merits of Genesis is classic Trek. We learned in “This Side of Paradise” that Leila Kalomi told Spock six years previously that she loved him, BUT it’s pretty clear from that episode that he didn’t love her back during that time six years previously. Found insideThat can't be Spock, Uhura realized. He hasn't even had time to ... “What are you two doing here? The party isn't over yet. ... Zar, don't pull that Vulcan poker-face on me I can tell something's going on. What are you up to?” Uhura ... Found inside“Lieutenant Uhura, get Starfleet again.” “Yes, sir. ... As ye' said, it canna' exist, but it did. ... had come aboard. According to Spock, it had been the result of mutually contradictory readings from two separate sets of sensors. But it’s weird how people are talking about in the future tense. Vindicated because because it was finally "a thing", but remorse because it came 35 years too late. However, by the end of the movie, the pair seem to have mostly made up — though it's made clear there is still a rift between them. Even in his inebriated state, Spock had the sense to use the flitter's autopilot function to get them back to the academy. They’re not erasing TOS episodes. He nodded at Uhura, "Get a full security team down there, now." Then, he spoke back into his com-link with the transporter room. Spock has hijacked the Enterprise, leaving Kirk behind on a space station ("The Menagerie") and then surrenders himself to arrest. . Spoiler alert! Of course making a prequel is potentially problematic as it automatically invites criticism, no matter what they come up with. And that brings us to Star Trek Beyond. And then they doubled down on it in the Short Treks Q and A. I understand and completely agreed not making Spock based on The Cage. I need to speak with their captains. Trying to mine characterizations from one second of screen time in a pilot that wasn’t supposed to be seen by anyone is pure full hardiness. Anson Mount (Pike) and Celia Rose Gooding (Uhura) on the updated USS Enterprise bridge set. And if the spores did create some sort of artificial universal hippie dippy love in Spock why was his kisses just focused on that one woman? Alright. Nothing will be undone. As for Kirk, my memory was a bit fuzzy. If they’re going into Spock’s relationships, he’s technically supposed to meet up with Leila Kalomi in 2261, which by my calculations would be right in the middle of Strange New Worlds. They already shot the season. Spock went to his station and I jumped into my chair. So the ‘Prime universe’ could just as easily apply to the way I’ve described the other ‘alternate universes’, and doesn’t necessarily have to apply to my TOS one. Benedict Cumberbatch was a great addition to the movie cast as well. The uniforms are different because they redesigned them for a weekly series; the captain is different because Jeffrey Hunter wasn’t available to come back for the second pilot; the sets are different because they fiddled with them and built new ones after the first pilot, etc. Only Senit had fallen in love with the midnight pirate and had in the end betrayed Tansin." Uhura looked around the hall, her eyes falling on each member of the bridge crew before coming to rest on Spock. The plants send slight electrical impulses that Vulcan facial nerves are sensitive to. Bones—" The guy was super emotional from angry to happy to sad depending on the situation of the episode. They’re acknowledging the passage of time and whatever differences we’re seeing. My FOURTH imagined ‘universe’ setting – The storylines and characters of the ‘Kelvin Timeline’ movie trilogy…..but rather than look on the J.J. Abrams movies as showing a divergence from ANY of the 3 imagined ‘alternate universes’ I described above. My divisions are similar but probably more or less divisions between universes depending how I am feeling on any given day. Uhura and Sulu are captured by Krall while Kirk and Chekov (the late Anton Yelchin) are together as are Spock and Dr. McCoy (Karl Urban). Strange New Worlds is expected to arrive in 2022. Found insideSYNDICATION CUTS • Sulu and Chekov locking phasers on Halkan targets before Uhura arrives. • Scott checking out main phaser control ... Second, the edit puts a different twist on Scott's statement as the two versions sync back together. Or maybe not. That’s not a good enough reason, sorry. I’d hate for that growth to become superfluous because Goldsman decided it should all happen when Spock is 25. Ethan Peck (Spock) on the USS Enterprise transporter room set. @ cd – while I know that many are content to take various prequels, sequels, and other spin-offs at face value without questioning anything, I find myself wanting to ‘streamline’ and ‘re-order’ certain franchises that I’ve invested in passionately into a way I prefer for myself these days. Good points, but I think producers should feel free to ignore some of those little things that were presented just once, and rarely reference, and could be easily retconned. 113 comments so far. Those bridge days were the best days. They all share the same world now. SNW will definitely explore his character pre-TOS along with a lot of charaçter back stories. I prefer to look on the late great Leonard Nimoy as portraying yet another ‘alternate universe Spock’ to begin with….and by the time he is elderly, he follows the ‘Nero’ from this particular ‘alternate universe’ into new ‘Timeline’ which is split off from it….effectively creating a new setting involving those particular ‘alternative universe’ characters, such as ‘alternate Khan’ if you will. Yeah this is true as well. Pull up a chair, as this may take a while…. Causes Vulcans to involuntarily smile. They canonize ‘Smiley Spock’ a year ago on Discovery when this all first came up. (they kiss some more and Spock exits unto a corridor) [Narada torture chamber] (Pike is strapped to a table) NERO: You must have a lot of questions for me. A third special edition called "The Shuttlecraft Incident" (by C. Wedgett) was proposed in 1984, but it was never published. A recurring theme we have heard since before production even started for Strange New Worlds was how the show was going to be structured more like The Original Series. We were never supposed to SEE the first pilot; it was pressed into service as part of “The Menagerie” only because production had fallen behind, and they needed to buy themselves some time. The boys cheer.) The sweet flowers start giving off a perfume. Using the footage from the first pilot allowed them to do both. The Landmark Web site still touts this, talking up the "ultra-comfy seats with cupholders" when, after 15 years, the seats ain't all that comfy, while bragging about cupholders is like bragging about Dolby Digital. Found inside“No, I can't.” “Mandala—” “Uhura,” she whispered, “Uhura, if I sit down I don't know if I'll be able to get back up.” “Lieutenant Uhura,” Spock snapped, “page Dr. McCoy again.” Spock did not want to move Jim without a stretcher, ... together. Now that they have wrapped up the first season, Rebecca Romijn highlighted this as the key difference between the new show and Discovery season two when the USS Enterprise, Number One, Pike, and Spock were reintroduced: We were shooting standalone episodes and Discovery was a serialized ongoing story. Yes, I’d really, REALLY like for them to ignore the “smiley Spock” that we were never supposed to see in the first place! I love them, and I love Noah . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kadlAj8x1xc. Spock was emotional during the first pilot because Number One was supposed to be the emotionless one then. One was the hints of relationships that we imagined we saw or knew we saw [on the Original Series] that were never quite fulfilled. And she ' s attacking Peshan ships with alacrity. ;). If I recall correctly Spocks station actually did have his viewer on discovery you can see it when he is sitting down in. So yeah. To me the smiling Spock feels like a giant tease. [KIRK] Do it. That’s as good as “Vulcan skies are seasonal” I guess…. We’ve already had this discussion several years ago. “And I think she’s super afraid of weighing him down. And Enterprise? Uhura, get me Command. Found insideAssigned to capture dangerous criminal Auk Rex, the crew of the Enterprise journeys, for the first time, to the planet Sanctuary, a fabled world thought to be the last refuge of the justly and unjustly accused. Original. Found inside – Page 3“I'm afraid you'll have to, Bones,” said Kirk, “until these people can get back on their feet. Uhura, do you have Space Central yet?” “I'm having trouble establishing contact, Captain. The Pulse ionized the interplanetary medium around ... For instance, Spock is working with Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy (Karl Urban), while Scotty (Simon Pegg) finds a new ally in the alien Jaylah (Sofia . Mica Burton interviews the Strange New World actors and producers. The only ‘canon’ I’m concerned with, is the one that I choose for my own liking during any franchise re-watch. Back then, Kyle would have argued, "Nuh, uh! But one of the genius things about using the old footage in THE MENAGERIE is that it brought those differences into the fictional world of Star Trek, instantly giving the characters, the ship, and the universe a feeling of TIME. Intention matters, not just what happens to make it on the air. Perhaps some of the “feelings of love and attraction” Peck mentioned have to do with T’Pring. Normally it is the handsome hero aka Jim Kirk that should get the girl and not the geek but JJ pulled a Shrek instead. Scotty (Simon Pegg) keeps things running and Sulu (John Cho) reunites with his husband and family. I agree which is why I mentioned Vulcan love. That’s VERY different from making him smile and shout when his usual self-control is in place. I just hope they do it justice, but with this group…..I do get why others are concerned too. But getting people arguing about canon distracts them from paying attention to things like whether it is good or not. Star Trek. So yeah, full agreement. This is the Spock we have now. :-). It will be interesting to see how the relationships evolve over the course of Beyond.Based on the trailers, it seems as if once the Enterprise crashes, the characters are scattered across the planet and end up working in pairs to get back together. I guess it will still be for some fans but as this entire board is proving not for most. No, sorry to disagree, but in the arts “intention” is important only to biographers and other dilettantes. Actual images and In those days being the operative words here. "I trust your wildest guess over anyone else's facts, Mister Spock," he said, came back to the table and jammed a finger on the com button. It wouldn’t make sense for him to be CMO in Pike’s era but not in Kirk’s. Shouty Spock is not the same as smiley Spock. "Spock, have Commander Uhura open a channel to the Hathaway and Oberth. Near the beginning of her service aboard the Enterprise, Uhura attempted to reach the Human side of Spock. Sure, it was Nimoy and the show figuring out the character — but it exists on film and this gives this new show an arc to explore (and, as several have noted here, Discovery and Peck already have).
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